A small access control card costs 50 yuan. Holding the access control card, "click" on the smart system, the door opened. This was originally a very convenient matter. However, due to the issue of charges, it caused a lot of waves in many community owners.
On April 1 of this year, the "Guangdong Provincial Property Services Charge Management Regulations" was formally implemented, which stipulated that the community should provide owners with a certain number of access badges free of charge. If the owners apply for more equipment or need to re-certify due to loss or damage, they may collect the cost according to the production cost.
Southern reporter learned during the visit, some communities do not have free access control card, and some even if equipped with a free card, more than one card needs 30-50 yuan. And a number of card company salesman said that a card to sell 1.5-5 yuan.
It took more than 10 cards to repay more than 10 cards in two years and spent several hundred dollars. Since the occupancy of the community in 2008, more than 10 cards have been renewed so far. One card costs 50 yuan and costs several hundred yuan. The owner who disclosed the name stated that the owners’ card and parking card of the new residential area in Shunjing had been merged into one, and this one card had to open 38 gates downstairs and the access card for the gates of their own cars and motorcycles. So home must have this card.
The owner said that the use of the card is indeed very convenient, but due to the small size of the card and his carelessness, he has lost many times in the past two years. The landlord believes that the 50 yuan/card charge is high.
Mr. Leung, the director of the management office of Shun King Property Management Co., Ltd., confirmed that there were nearly 600 owners of Phase I and Phase II of the community, including 300 owners of Phase I and 295 of Phase II. When the owner repossesses the property, each owner will be provided with 3 owner cards for free. If you want to re-submit or multiple cards, because the smart device system is not the same, the fees for the owners of the first and second phases are not the same. The first owner pays 30 yuan for one card and the second owner has 50 yuan for each card.
How much reasonable is the access control card? Earlier, complaints about the high fees charged by community access cards were heard.
The owner of the website called “Hecheng's Son†wrote a complaint on the Zhongshan Forum saying that he had bought a house in a community in the development zone and had lost the electronic key (like the blue key chain) of the community gate and elevator. Buy one for 25 yuan. "I'm so angry that the cost of the thing is no more than 1 yuan. Even if we add manpower plus copy plus profits, shouldn't we sell so much?"
Visit a community unworthy of free card costs 30-50 yuan Community access card in the end is how to charge it? Is there any free equipment for the owner? Nandu reporter recently visited several communities and discovered that the “Measures†were implemented for more than four months. Some small property management offices did not provide access control cards for free, and one card charged RMB 30-50; some of them even had three free copies. Cards, re-issuance or multi-submission must also charge 30-50 yuan.
Huahong Shuiyunxuan Community Management Office said that every building in the community must be swiped into the building. The landlord purchased the first 4 cards for a total of 50 yuan, and thereafter each card had 50 yuan. There is no free provision of a certain number of cards for the owners.
3 free tickets for stay at Yigang Garden. According to the staff of the property management office, the manufacturers from Shenzhen want goods to come in at 20 yuan per piece.
Why should I charge 50 yuan? "Shut up, first, for equipment maintenance, and second, to use high prices to force users to cherish the access control card." The staff member said that because the owners do not cherish the card, not only the elderly and children often break the card, and even property management personnel can often Access control card in the community.
At present, there are about 400 households in the community, and 1/3 of them are leased to outsiders. When the owner sells a house, he cannot return the card. He can transfer it to the new owner and update the information free of charge when managing the property.
Stars Palace, the first two cards are free, after the next 20 yuan, can only handle 5 pieces. Card is not refundable.
The top three cities in Vanke are free, and the next one is 30 yuan.
The property management: If it is impossible to make money through the owner's card, the “Guangdong Provincial Property Service Charge Management Regulations†stipulates that more cards can be charged according to the cost. The charge for access control cards for multiple communities is more than RMB 30-50. How high is the cost of one card?
Mr. Liang, the director of the management office of Shunjing Property Management Co., Ltd., said that when the second phase of the residential area was just in 2008, the management office made 2,000 owner cards, which cost about 50,000 yuan, and a card costed more than 30 yuan. . The owner’s card they bought was still depleted. Not every piece can be used. This part of the cost counts. A card will earn ten yuan. “It’s not what the owners said that it’s huge profits. We can’t pass it. Owner cards make money."
The card company: the cost of the access control card is 1.5-5 yuan / Zhang Yesterday, the Southern Metropolis reporter contacted the sales staff of a few card companies. The answer is that the cost of a card is not more than 5 yuan. According to the salesperson of Guangzhou Network Co., Ltd., the residential access control card has two types of ID card and IC card, if you want to produce 2000, ID card 1.5 yuan / Zhang, IC card 2.3 yuan / Zhang. If you buy more, the price can be cheaper. The access control card intelligent system is networked and not connected to the Internet. The set of networking is not more than 1,000 yuan, and the set of non-networking is not more than 100 yuan.
According to the calculation of the two-phase five-storey building networked system, the access control intelligent system is only a few thousand dollars.
Dongguan City Branch × Intelligent Systems Co., Ltd. salesman said, access control ID card does not exceed 2.5 yuan / Zhang, IC card does not exceed 5 yuan / Zhang, intelligent system does not exceed 2500 / sets.
The clerk’s quotations are far from the “billing†of Liang’s director.
Municipal Price Bureau: Costs should be collected at cost The staff of the Municipal Cost Bureau's Cost Monitoring and Investigation Bureau told reporters that in accordance with the newly issued "Guangdong Provincial Property Service Charge Management Measures," owners should apply for more equipment or need to re-certify due to loss or damage. The cost of production may be charged according to the cost of production. However, because of the different access control systems, access control card materials, manuals, and brands used in each community, the price department cannot establish a unified charging standard. If owners have doubts about the charges for access control cards, they think that If the property company sells beyond the cost price, it can provide the Bureau with the appropriate vouchers to report it, and the Bureau can intervene to investigate.
Who will set the dispute for access control cards?
With a single card of 50 yuan, how does the property management department set fees? Mr. Leung, director of the management office of Shunjing Property Management Co., Ltd., admitted that according to the cost of the owner's card, the management office set its own price.
Recently, the “Administrative Measures on Property Services Charges in Zhongshan†(draft for comment) has been published. Article 21 stipulates that if the management of community pass passes is implemented, the construction unit shall provide no less than 3 passes for each owner of the house free of charge. (Including IC cards, etc.) If the parking spaces need to be equipped separately, each parking space should be equipped with not less than one pass (including IC card). If owners apply for more equipment or need to re-certify due to loss or damage, they may collect the cost of production according to the production cost.
If calculated according to the cost of the highest offer of 5 yuan on the market, the property management office will sell 50 yuan, of which the high profit can be imagined.
Access control card costs include system costs?
Mr. Leung, director of the management office of Shunjing Property Management Co., Ltd., said that the monitoring system and parking system of the 5 buildings in the second phase of the community cost more than one million yuan. The fees are paid for by the property management and the first three cards are free. The 4th card starts to charge 50 yuan/card and earns 10 yuan. However, Nandu reporter learned from the card company that the price of the smart system does not exceed 2,500 yuan/set.
According to Article 5 of the "Guangdong Provincial Price Bureau's New Code of Conduct for Transacting Commercial Housing Prices" promulgated in 2007, the sales price structure of commercial housing includes reasonable development and construction costs, fees, taxes, and profits. All infrastructure facilities that are built with commercial housing, including construction costs for water supply, power supply, gas supply, communications, cable television, security monitoring systems, letter boxes, etc., shall all be included in the development and construction costs and may not be collected separately from the price.
According to the relevant person of the Zhongshan Hong Kong Garden Management Office, “We have closed a little higher, one is for equipment maintenance, and the other is to use high prices to force users to cherish the access control card.â€
The owners believe that the intelligent system belongs to the safety monitoring system. The installation and maintenance costs should be included in the sales price of the commercial housing, and should not be paid by the owner.
Does the property fee include access card fees?
During the interview, many owners believed that the access control card should not be charged. "We have paid so much property fees, why do we still pay for it." They think this is a property management to make money.
In this regard, Mr. Liang, director of the Shunjing New Home Management Office, said that the residential property below the 6th floor costs 1.6 yuan per square meter, above the sixth floor of 1.8 yuan per square meter, and 600 residential quarters. Each month's income will have to pay for elevator electricity. What's wrong with spending is hard to do.
User opinion IP: 119.129.*.*
The property management company is required to publicize the management fees it collects and the advertisements for elevators, etc., to all owners.
IP: 219.137.*.*
Access control is, of course, a means of technical defense, while reducing the cost of property management. Access control should be installed by the industry committee or authorized property company. According to the principle of who benefits and who pays, it cannot be used to gain money.
At the same time, companies that want to provide access control installations also take the initiative to come for online quotation, so that those interested in installing the access control community can also consider the owners to have “access control†in mind.
On April 1 of this year, the "Guangdong Provincial Property Services Charge Management Regulations" was formally implemented, which stipulated that the community should provide owners with a certain number of access badges free of charge. If the owners apply for more equipment or need to re-certify due to loss or damage, they may collect the cost according to the production cost.
Southern reporter learned during the visit, some communities do not have free access control card, and some even if equipped with a free card, more than one card needs 30-50 yuan. And a number of card company salesman said that a card to sell 1.5-5 yuan.
It took more than 10 cards to repay more than 10 cards in two years and spent several hundred dollars. Since the occupancy of the community in 2008, more than 10 cards have been renewed so far. One card costs 50 yuan and costs several hundred yuan. The owner who disclosed the name stated that the owners’ card and parking card of the new residential area in Shunjing had been merged into one, and this one card had to open 38 gates downstairs and the access card for the gates of their own cars and motorcycles. So home must have this card.
The owner said that the use of the card is indeed very convenient, but due to the small size of the card and his carelessness, he has lost many times in the past two years. The landlord believes that the 50 yuan/card charge is high.
Mr. Leung, the director of the management office of Shun King Property Management Co., Ltd., confirmed that there were nearly 600 owners of Phase I and Phase II of the community, including 300 owners of Phase I and 295 of Phase II. When the owner repossesses the property, each owner will be provided with 3 owner cards for free. If you want to re-submit or multiple cards, because the smart device system is not the same, the fees for the owners of the first and second phases are not the same. The first owner pays 30 yuan for one card and the second owner has 50 yuan for each card.
How much reasonable is the access control card? Earlier, complaints about the high fees charged by community access cards were heard.
The owner of the website called “Hecheng's Son†wrote a complaint on the Zhongshan Forum saying that he had bought a house in a community in the development zone and had lost the electronic key (like the blue key chain) of the community gate and elevator. Buy one for 25 yuan. "I'm so angry that the cost of the thing is no more than 1 yuan. Even if we add manpower plus copy plus profits, shouldn't we sell so much?"
Visit a community unworthy of free card costs 30-50 yuan Community access card in the end is how to charge it? Is there any free equipment for the owner? Nandu reporter recently visited several communities and discovered that the “Measures†were implemented for more than four months. Some small property management offices did not provide access control cards for free, and one card charged RMB 30-50; some of them even had three free copies. Cards, re-issuance or multi-submission must also charge 30-50 yuan.
Huahong Shuiyunxuan Community Management Office said that every building in the community must be swiped into the building. The landlord purchased the first 4 cards for a total of 50 yuan, and thereafter each card had 50 yuan. There is no free provision of a certain number of cards for the owners.
3 free tickets for stay at Yigang Garden. According to the staff of the property management office, the manufacturers from Shenzhen want goods to come in at 20 yuan per piece.
Why should I charge 50 yuan? "Shut up, first, for equipment maintenance, and second, to use high prices to force users to cherish the access control card." The staff member said that because the owners do not cherish the card, not only the elderly and children often break the card, and even property management personnel can often Access control card in the community.
At present, there are about 400 households in the community, and 1/3 of them are leased to outsiders. When the owner sells a house, he cannot return the card. He can transfer it to the new owner and update the information free of charge when managing the property.
Stars Palace, the first two cards are free, after the next 20 yuan, can only handle 5 pieces. Card is not refundable.
The top three cities in Vanke are free, and the next one is 30 yuan.
The property management: If it is impossible to make money through the owner's card, the “Guangdong Provincial Property Service Charge Management Regulations†stipulates that more cards can be charged according to the cost. The charge for access control cards for multiple communities is more than RMB 30-50. How high is the cost of one card?
Mr. Liang, the director of the management office of Shunjing Property Management Co., Ltd., said that when the second phase of the residential area was just in 2008, the management office made 2,000 owner cards, which cost about 50,000 yuan, and a card costed more than 30 yuan. . The owner’s card they bought was still depleted. Not every piece can be used. This part of the cost counts. A card will earn ten yuan. “It’s not what the owners said that it’s huge profits. We can’t pass it. Owner cards make money."
The card company: the cost of the access control card is 1.5-5 yuan / Zhang Yesterday, the Southern Metropolis reporter contacted the sales staff of a few card companies. The answer is that the cost of a card is not more than 5 yuan. According to the salesperson of Guangzhou Network Co., Ltd., the residential access control card has two types of ID card and IC card, if you want to produce 2000, ID card 1.5 yuan / Zhang, IC card 2.3 yuan / Zhang. If you buy more, the price can be cheaper. The access control card intelligent system is networked and not connected to the Internet. The set of networking is not more than 1,000 yuan, and the set of non-networking is not more than 100 yuan.
According to the calculation of the two-phase five-storey building networked system, the access control intelligent system is only a few thousand dollars.
Dongguan City Branch × Intelligent Systems Co., Ltd. salesman said, access control ID card does not exceed 2.5 yuan / Zhang, IC card does not exceed 5 yuan / Zhang, intelligent system does not exceed 2500 / sets.
The clerk’s quotations are far from the “billing†of Liang’s director.
Municipal Price Bureau: Costs should be collected at cost The staff of the Municipal Cost Bureau's Cost Monitoring and Investigation Bureau told reporters that in accordance with the newly issued "Guangdong Provincial Property Service Charge Management Measures," owners should apply for more equipment or need to re-certify due to loss or damage. The cost of production may be charged according to the cost of production. However, because of the different access control systems, access control card materials, manuals, and brands used in each community, the price department cannot establish a unified charging standard. If owners have doubts about the charges for access control cards, they think that If the property company sells beyond the cost price, it can provide the Bureau with the appropriate vouchers to report it, and the Bureau can intervene to investigate.
Who will set the dispute for access control cards?
With a single card of 50 yuan, how does the property management department set fees? Mr. Leung, director of the management office of Shunjing Property Management Co., Ltd., admitted that according to the cost of the owner's card, the management office set its own price.
Recently, the “Administrative Measures on Property Services Charges in Zhongshan†(draft for comment) has been published. Article 21 stipulates that if the management of community pass passes is implemented, the construction unit shall provide no less than 3 passes for each owner of the house free of charge. (Including IC cards, etc.) If the parking spaces need to be equipped separately, each parking space should be equipped with not less than one pass (including IC card). If owners apply for more equipment or need to re-certify due to loss or damage, they may collect the cost of production according to the production cost.
If calculated according to the cost of the highest offer of 5 yuan on the market, the property management office will sell 50 yuan, of which the high profit can be imagined.
Access control card costs include system costs?
Mr. Leung, director of the management office of Shunjing Property Management Co., Ltd., said that the monitoring system and parking system of the 5 buildings in the second phase of the community cost more than one million yuan. The fees are paid for by the property management and the first three cards are free. The 4th card starts to charge 50 yuan/card and earns 10 yuan. However, Nandu reporter learned from the card company that the price of the smart system does not exceed 2,500 yuan/set.
According to Article 5 of the "Guangdong Provincial Price Bureau's New Code of Conduct for Transacting Commercial Housing Prices" promulgated in 2007, the sales price structure of commercial housing includes reasonable development and construction costs, fees, taxes, and profits. All infrastructure facilities that are built with commercial housing, including construction costs for water supply, power supply, gas supply, communications, cable television, security monitoring systems, letter boxes, etc., shall all be included in the development and construction costs and may not be collected separately from the price.
According to the relevant person of the Zhongshan Hong Kong Garden Management Office, “We have closed a little higher, one is for equipment maintenance, and the other is to use high prices to force users to cherish the access control card.â€
The owners believe that the intelligent system belongs to the safety monitoring system. The installation and maintenance costs should be included in the sales price of the commercial housing, and should not be paid by the owner.
Does the property fee include access card fees?
During the interview, many owners believed that the access control card should not be charged. "We have paid so much property fees, why do we still pay for it." They think this is a property management to make money.
In this regard, Mr. Liang, director of the Shunjing New Home Management Office, said that the residential property below the 6th floor costs 1.6 yuan per square meter, above the sixth floor of 1.8 yuan per square meter, and 600 residential quarters. Each month's income will have to pay for elevator electricity. What's wrong with spending is hard to do.
User opinion IP: 119.129.*.*
The property management company is required to publicize the management fees it collects and the advertisements for elevators, etc., to all owners.
IP: 219.137.*.*
Access control is, of course, a means of technical defense, while reducing the cost of property management. Access control should be installed by the industry committee or authorized property company. According to the principle of who benefits and who pays, it cannot be used to gain money.
At the same time, companies that want to provide access control installations also take the initiative to come for online quotation, so that those interested in installing the access control community can also consider the owners to have “access control†in mind.
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